August 5th, 2006
Lack of Transparency in Pay-Per-Click Ads and TV Ads: A Tale of Two Ad Councils
What does it say about an advertising format when an industry “council” has to be formed in order to arbitrate the problem of advertisers not knowing whether they are getting what they paid for? That’s what happened to both pay-per-click advertising and TV advertising this past week, and the similarities between these two ad councils says a lot about the future of both advertising formats.
Pay-Per-Click Ad Council
(From CNET)
The Interactive Advertising Bureau (IAB) and the nonprofit Media Rating Council said they are teaming with Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, Ask.com, LookSmart and others to form the Click Measurement Working Group.
The group’s mission is to establish guidelines for what constitutes valid clicks and invalid clicks on ads. Guidelines can help the industry measure how prevalent click fraud really is. Third-parties who sell click-fraud-combating services to advertisers claim that click fraud rates are as high as 30 percent. Google and Yahoo counter that click fraud rates are minimal.
TV Commercial Ad Council
(From MediaPost)
IN THE WEEKS SINCE NIELSEN revealed plans to begin providing ratings for TV advertising minutes significant problems have emerged in the way those ratings are processed. Now a coalition of influential buyers and sellers wants to put the brakes on that process before and is planning a meeting to rethink how the so-called commercial ratings should be manufactured. The meeting, which is expected to take place next month, before the launch of the new TV season, and before Nielsen begins doling out the new ratings, will likely lead to a new round of discussions on what data should - and should not - go into the commercial ratings, how they should be processed, disseminated and used in TV advertising deals. “I don’t think there’s anyone out there who thinks that Nielsen has a full grip on this,” acknowledges Alan Wurtzel, president of research and media development at NBC, who is one of the executives trying to organize the summit. We need to find a forum in which the industry can get together and start to deal with some of these details.”
In both instances, the problem is a lack of data transparency. Greg Stuart, chief executive of the Interactive Advertising Bureau, who is part of the click council, said (from BusinessWeek):
Media need to operate with transparency. There’s marketers and agencies who are paying money for things. They need to know, what are they paying for? What does that look like? What is the standardized way in which that’s being counted? And also ultimately, is that audited? Can we validate that (using a third party)? And so, in an industry that is now going to be close to $16 billion this year, it should be relatively obvious that we need to operate with the principles that all media operate under.
The problem is that the current pay-per-click and TV ad systems both make it difficult, if not impossible, to provide data transparency. For clicks, it’s the ad networks, e.g. Google AdWords and Yahoo Search Marketing, that can’t provide all the the data. For TV ads, the problem is Nielsen, who acts as the data proxy for the TV networks.
Pay-Per-Click Ads
(From the Tuzhilin report)
An operational definition [of click fraud] cannot be fully disclosed to the general public because of the concerns that unethical users will take advantage of it, which may lead to a massive click fraud. However, if it is not disclosed, advertisers cannot verify or even dispute why they have been charged for certain clicks.
TV Ads
One of the chief problems surrounding the new ratings is that the commercial ratings are processed by using a relatively shaky system for identifying when the commercial minutes actually air. That system, Nielsen’s Monitor-Plus service, was designed as a competitive advertising monitory system, which apparently does not have the same level of detail or rigor as the systems Nielsen uses to compile and process TV ratings.
I can’t fault the formation of these ad councils because, given that they can’t fix the real problem of data transparency, it’s the only way that all of the interested parties can address the problem. Of course, having interested parties like Google, Yahoo, ad agencies, and TV networks on these councils turns them into a tug of war between deeply entrenched economic interests.
Advertisers will begin to get wise to the similarities between the lack of transparency in pay-per-click ads and TV ads. Although pay-per-click is a leap forward in measureability and accountability, it still falls far short of a truly transparent system. You can see it in how Greg Stuart talks about pay-per-click ads (i.e. “search” ads):
Search produces results. End of story. It produces results. My guess is that these advertisers would like to see any concern that might seep into the view that their management has, or anybody else. Because they know in their heart of hearts that this really works. It’s in everybody’s interest to clean this one up.
“They know in their heart of hearts that this really works” — old media companies have been using such language for years to describe advertisers’ ostensible faith in poorly-measured and unaccountable TV and print advertising.
Wouldn’t it be great if there were an advertising system that was fully transparent and thus didn’t require advertisers to form industry councils and adopt articles of faith to prop it up?
That’s why we will we soon see the transition from clicks to actions and conversions.





Digital Expertise Forges a Closer Customer Bond Brett Knobloch content on-demand guru and executive vp at JGSullivan Interactive, Inc. posted the article he wrote for the inaugural issue of the NAPL Business Review on his blog. Lack of Transparency in Pay-Per-Click Ads and TV Ads: A Tale of Two Ad Councils. A good round-up summarizing (lack of)transparency in internet and TV advertising. Comment on this Post [IMG]
Lack of Transparency in Pay-Per-Click Ads and TV Ads: A Tale of Two Ad Councils
I don’t agree that we will see the transition from clicks to conversions. Sure, there will be more choice in the future - but at the end of the day, advertisers will continue to be happy to use pay-per-click in the future, even if some of the clicks are fraudulent. I beleive that this is the case simply because there are still generating an overall profit as a result of the PPC campaign. If they didn’t then they wouldn’t advertise.
Conversion/CPA transition on the Google network at least can only happen where Google Checkout is leveraged and even if we were to assume that every Google advertiser will leverage the Checkout service eventually, there will still be CPC and CPM based ads as there are today across the the online industry as a whole.
CPC is still the best model and most advertisers account in their bids for potential fraud and bad clicks. It will be interesting to see if the CPC network providers can convince the fraud watchdogs that buying behaviors online typically require multiple clicks of the same ad by the same customer over a period of time before a conversion happens leveraging bookmarks, now if we throw in the trend of bookmark sharing networks, the problem which is not a problem at all may get even worse before it gets better.
David, I’m curious how well advertisers are REALLY able to measure the ROI of PPC, or whether they are still using some of the guesswork of the old CPM model? When someone clicks on an ad, and then buys three weeks later, how is the factored into most advertisers’ PPC ROI models? What is the industry standard control factor for click fraud? The idea of “perfect” ROI measurement with PPC has been bandied about so much, it’s now taken as an article of faith.
Tony, I’m intrigued by the multiple click/bookmarking the ad issue — you don’t see it discussed much. The data here is so thin, that the guesswork feels parallel to the guesswork of TV advertising, even if PPC has an order of magnitude more data — it’s still not all the data that is needed to know for sure the ROI of the ad spending.
Some Sunday morning reading to share. [IMG Fprint_03] One of many reasons why I think Web 2.0 and the move to advertising here, advertising there, advertising everywhere, is not really going to work in the long run. Two different “councils” are looking at what advertisers are getting for their money. One is for the web and the other for TV. All you have to do is look at the disgusting phenomenon of splogs and you have the answer. They arrested two teens for the theft of the laptop that contained data on 26.5 million veterans. These guys didn’t
Scott, absolutely… its a guessing game even for CPC ads but much more precise guessing than TV ads will ever be able to provide unless TV eventually becomes interactive then they are in par…
From what I can tell, people who are able to measure their ROI are doing so on a per-channel basis. In other words, they can tell (to the extent information is completely and perfectly supplied, such as referral data and cookies), where the traffic came from (e.g a particular SE or ad network) and how well it converted (if it did). Whereas in traditional media, they have much less feedback, despite there being opportunities to give it, such as those forms one occasionally fills out when buying something asking where one heard about the company or product.
Some people are also claiming better ROI than on radio, print, etc. I attribute this mostly to the (over)pricing of those media. If those media are able to lower their prices to the PPC level, I suspect advertisers will start to complain more about nonconverting clicks (fraudulent or not) and their effect on ad spend.
[…] John Slade, Senior Director of Global Product Management at Yahoo, made an effort to redirect the discussion to the “bright side,” i.e. the industry council that was formed with IAB and Media Ratings Council to come up with a standard definition of clicks and click fraud. […]