Comments on: The Value Of Aggregating Content http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/ The (r)Eevolution of Media Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:23:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Monocle: Print media’s rather clever black sheep « Media Junkie http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/comment-page-1/#comment-473426 Monocle: Print media’s rather clever black sheep « Media Junkie Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:22:02 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/#comment-473426 [...] ads to eyeballs. That is no longer the case. The internet, as various smart people have already noted, has unbundled content and advertising. But the old model created an unhealthy habit - publishers [...] [...] ads to eyeballs. That is no longer the case. The internet, as various smart people have already noted, has unbundled content and advertising. But the old model created an unhealthy habit – publishers [...]

]]> By: Dan Blank: Publishing, Innovation and the Web » Blog Archive » The Disaggregation and Aggregation of News Media http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/comment-page-1/#comment-134618 Dan Blank: Publishing, Innovation and the Web » Blog Archive » The Disaggregation and Aggregation of News Media Thu, 24 May 2007 19:50:00 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/#comment-134618 [...] Karp looks at two sides of a debate between two Web 2.0 gurus, regarding the value of bundling and aggregating content. Their examples focus on the idea of whether an “album” of music is a natural way to [...] [...] Karp looks at two sides of a debate between two Web 2.0 gurus, regarding the value of bundling and aggregating content. Their examples focus on the idea of whether an “album” of music is a natural way to [...]

]]> By: Yme’s Thoughts » Blog Archive » Song or album? http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/comment-page-1/#comment-133790 Yme’s Thoughts » Blog Archive » Song or album? Wed, 23 May 2007 08:45:35 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/#comment-133790 [...] automated) playlists. But Nick Carr and David Weinberger both have a point, Scott Karp aggregates their opinions and adds some value…“On iTunes, an individual can aggregate music by [...] [...] automated) playlists. But Nick Carr and David Weinberger both have a point, Scott Karp aggregates their opinions and adds some value…“On iTunes, an individual can aggregate music by [...]

]]> By: Ymerce » Blog Archive » Nummer of album? http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/comment-page-1/#comment-133786 Ymerce » Blog Archive » Nummer of album? Wed, 23 May 2007 08:42:28 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/#comment-133786 [...] de analyses van zowel Nick Carr en David Weinberger raken beide een kern van waarheid.  Scott Karp aggregeerde [...] [...] de analyses van zowel Nick Carr en David Weinberger raken beide een kern van waarheid.  Scott Karp aggregeerde [...]

]]> By: Scott Karp http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/comment-page-1/#comment-133679 Scott Karp Wed, 23 May 2007 04:29:08 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/#comment-133679 David, Thanks for stopping by to clarify. I've picked up a copy of the book and will definitely be reading past page 9. David,

Thanks for stopping by to clarify. I’ve picked up a copy of the book and will definitely be reading past page 9.

]]> By: David Weinberger http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/comment-page-1/#comment-133678 David Weinberger Wed, 23 May 2007 04:24:57 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/#comment-133678 Scott, your last sentence is a pretty good summary of what "Everything Is Miscellaneous" is about: "Step two — or 2.0 — is finding dynamic ways to put it back together." What new principles of organization are emerging as information, ideas, knowledge and creative works are moved on line? What effect does that have on the traditional authority we've vested in those who have done the organizing for us? The book in fact spends a good deal of time arguing against the idea that there are "natural" units - I now of course regret ever having used that phrase in the passage on p. 9 that Nick quotes - and spends just about all its time on the potential for multiple orders in the huge pile of miscellaneous stuff we're building ... a pile ever richer in links and metadata. Scott, your last sentence is a pretty good summary of what “Everything Is Miscellaneous” is about: “Step two — or 2.0 — is finding dynamic ways to put it back together.” What new principles of organization are emerging as information, ideas, knowledge and creative works are moved on line? What effect does that have on the traditional authority we’ve vested in those who have done the organizing for us?

The book in fact spends a good deal of time arguing against the idea that there are “natural” units – I now of course regret ever having used that phrase in the passage on p. 9 that Nick quotes – and spends just about all its time on the potential for multiple orders in the huge pile of miscellaneous stuff we’re building … a pile ever richer in links and metadata.

]]> By: Chip Griffin: Pardon the Disruption: links for 2007-05-22 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/comment-page-1/#comment-133538 Chip Griffin: Pardon the Disruption: links for 2007-05-22 Tue, 22 May 2007 21:51:26 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/#comment-133538 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] The Value Of Aggregating Content disaggregation vs. aggregation -- where are we headed? (tags: Aggregation media) [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] The Value Of Aggregating Content disaggregation vs. aggregation — where are we headed? (tags: Aggregation media) [...]

]]> By: New IBM CPU is double-quick (and a blotch twig) - Computerworld Blogs http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/comment-page-1/#comment-133398 New IBM CPU is double-quick (and a blotch twig) - Computerworld Blogs Tue, 22 May 2007 16:27:31 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/#comment-133398 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Publishing 2.0: The Value Of Aggregating Content [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] Publishing 2.0: The Value Of Aggregating Content [...]

]]> By: links for 2007-05-22 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/comment-page-1/#comment-133106 links for 2007-05-22 Tue, 22 May 2007 00:37:30 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/#comment-133106 [...] The Value Of Aggregating Content » Publishing 2.0 (tags: media socialsoftware content) [...] [...] The Value Of Aggregating Content » Publishing 2.0 (tags: media socialsoftware content) [...]

]]> By: Wagazi » Style press, home delivery media, podcasts and maps. http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/comment-page-1/#comment-133044 Wagazi » Style press, home delivery media, podcasts and maps. Mon, 21 May 2007 21:18:58 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/#comment-133044 [...] Carp about The value of aggregating content. His words: Disaggregation — taking apart media — is only step one of the media revolution. [...] [...] Carp about The value of aggregating content. His words: Disaggregation — taking apart media — is only step one of the media revolution. [...]

]]> By: Doug Cress http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/comment-page-1/#comment-132995 Doug Cress Mon, 21 May 2007 19:13:16 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/#comment-132995 nicely stated - Weinberger's notion of an album being the aggregate of free-standing tracks is a little simplistic - in some cases its akin to saying a novel is merely a collection of chapters. nicely stated –

Weinberger’s notion of an album being the aggregate of free-standing tracks is a little simplistic – in some cases its akin to saying a novel is merely a collection of chapters.

]]> By: Notes from a Teacher: Mark on Media » Monday squibs http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/comment-page-1/#comment-132933 Notes from a Teacher: Mark on Media » Monday squibs Mon, 21 May 2007 15:47:28 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/#comment-132933 [...] The Value Of Aggregating Content. Scott Karp digs into statements from David Wienberger and Nick Carr and comes to the conclusion that while the internet have been about disaggregation, the next step is finding dynamic ways to put the pieces back together. [...] [...] The Value Of Aggregating Content. Scott Karp digs into statements from David Wienberger and Nick Carr and comes to the conclusion that while the internet have been about disaggregation, the next step is finding dynamic ways to put the pieces back together. [...]

]]> By: Klas Roggenkamp » Blog » Disaggregation und wieder “zurückbündeln” http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/comment-page-1/#comment-132871 Klas Roggenkamp » Blog » Disaggregation und wieder “zurückbündeln” Mon, 21 May 2007 13:24:02 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/#comment-132871 [...] Scott Karpe habe ich gerade einen Mini-Diskurs zum Thema Content-Zerlegung und Wiederzusammenführung [...] [...] Scott Karpe habe ich gerade einen Mini-Diskurs zum Thema Content-Zerlegung und Wiederzusammenführung [...]

]]> By: Karl http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/comment-page-1/#comment-132782 Karl Mon, 21 May 2007 10:07:51 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/#comment-132782 Brilliant :) Brilliant :)

]]> By: Ethan Bauley http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/comment-page-1/#comment-132724 Ethan Bauley Mon, 21 May 2007 07:47:55 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/#comment-132724 Yes, I believe Umair refers to these as "reconstructors," right? http://www.bubblegeneration.com/2006/01/research-note-media-2.cfm Yes, I believe Umair refers to these as “reconstructors,” right?

http://www.bubblegeneration.com/2006/01/research-note-media-2.cfm

]]> By: p0ps http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/comment-page-1/#comment-132642 p0ps Mon, 21 May 2007 03:49:49 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/#comment-132642 Since the standard of the three minute song was dictated by the recording technology of the '1920s, it cannot be considered a natural unit, but it does seem to still work in the 21st Century. The fifteen to twenty minute on each side of a LP record was dictated by the technology of the 1950's and this two-act unit of thematically linked three-minute songs seemed to work better than the forty to fifty minute one act CD dictated by 1980's technology. Now, that our present day technology doesn't so obviously dictate any cut length or album length, the individual listener, collector may bundle songs as they wish. Choice our most prized benefit. Since the standard of the three minute song was dictated by the recording technology of the ‘1920s, it cannot be considered a natural unit, but it does seem to still work in the 21st Century. The fifteen to twenty minute on each side of a LP record was dictated by the technology of the 1950’s and this two-act unit of thematically linked three-minute songs seemed to work better than the forty to fifty minute one act CD dictated by 1980’s technology. Now, that our present day technology doesn’t so obviously dictate any cut length or album length, the individual listener, collector may bundle songs as they wish. Choice our most prized benefit.

]]> By: ryskamp.org | brain http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/comment-page-1/#comment-133140 ryskamp.org | brain Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/#comment-133140 <!--%kramer-pre%--> The Value Of Aggregating Content » Publishing 2.0 - "Disaggregation — taking apart media — is only step one of the media revolution. Step two — or 2.0 — is finding dynamic ways to put it back together." <!--%kramer-post%--> The Value Of Aggregating Content » Publishing 2.0 – “Disaggregation — taking apart media — is only step one of the media revolution. Step two — or 2.0 — is finding dynamic ways to put it back together.”

]]> By: p0ps blog http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/comment-page-1/#comment-133141 p0ps blog Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/#comment-133141 <!--%kramer-pre%-->fifty minute one act CD dictated by 1980's technology. Now, that our present day technology doesn't so obviously dictate any cut length or album length, the individual listener, collector may bundle songs as they wish. Choice our most prized benefit. read more<!--%kramer-post%--> fifty minute one act CD dictated by 1980’s technology. Now, that our present day technology doesn’t so obviously dictate any cut length or album length, the individual listener, collector may bundle songs as they wish. Choice our most prized benefit. read more

]]> By: neunetz.com http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/comment-page-1/#comment-133654 neunetz.com Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/#comment-133654 <!--%kramer-pre%-->Twitter Fan Wiki - This is the unofficial place where Tw…Review: Weebly, The New Flexible Blogging Platform : The Blog HeraldThe 10 Best Places To Find How-To Videos30Gigs.com - Home to the 30 Gigabyte Webmail ServiceJay-Q - Jaiku Client for WindowsThe Value Of Aggregating Content » Publishing 2.0Die Macht der Blogger und Communities - Mai 2007 - Monat der Lehrstücke at franztooBuzka: Social Bookmarking With a Business FunctionIRC with OpenID? at Not So Relevant Linkblog Feed <!--%kramer-post%--> Twitter Fan Wiki – This is the unofficial place where Tw…Review: Weebly, The New Flexible Blogging Platform : The Blog HeraldThe 10 Best Places To Find How-To Videos30Gigs.com – Home to the 30 Gigabyte Webmail ServiceJay-Q – Jaiku Client for WindowsThe Value Of Aggregating Content » Publishing 2.0Die Macht der Blogger und Communities – Mai 2007 – Monat der Lehrstücke at franztooBuzka: Social Bookmarking With a Business FunctionIRC with OpenID? at Not So Relevant Linkblog Feed

]]> By: News goes social http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/comment-page-1/#comment-135298 News goes social Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/#comment-135298 <!--%kramer-pre%--> The Value Of Aggregating Content » Publishing 2.0 <!--%kramer-post%--> The Value Of Aggregating Content » Publishing 2.0

]]> By: David Black http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/comment-page-1/#comment-137087 David Black Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/#comment-137087 <!--%kramer-pre%--> The Value Of Aggregating Content » Publishing 2.0 <!--%kramer-post%--> The Value Of Aggregating Content » Publishing 2.0

]]> By: Dan Blank: Publishing, Innovation and the Web http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/comment-page-1/#comment-140843 Dan Blank: Publishing, Innovation and the Web Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/05/20/the-value-of-aggregating-content/#comment-140843 <!--%kramer-pre%--> Scott Karp looks at two sides of a debate between two Web 2.0 gurus, regarding the value of bundling and aggregating content. Their examples focus on the idea of whether an “album” of music is a natural way to bundle songs, and Scott brings that discussion over to newspapers. His conclusion: “Disaggregation — taking apart media — is only step one of the media<!--%kramer-post%--> Scott Karp looks at two sides of a debate between two Web 2.0 gurus, regarding the value of bundling and aggregating content. Their examples focus on the idea of whether an “album” of music is a natural way to bundle songs, and Scott brings that discussion over to newspapers. His conclusion: “Disaggregation — taking apart media — is only step one of the media

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