Comments on: Does Kevin Rose have the Next Big Thing in Social Networking? http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/ The (r)Eevolution of Media Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:58:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Abhishek http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/comment-page-1/#comment-177135 Abhishek Sun, 12 Aug 2007 06:30:24 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/#comment-177135 I have tried both Pownce and Twitter and must say that by itself they arent of much value Read more http://abhishek.tiwari.com/2007/07/23/pownced-and-twitterized/ I have tried both Pownce and Twitter and must say that by itself they arent of much value

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]]> By: macewan http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/comment-page-1/#comment-172594 macewan Fri, 03 Aug 2007 09:49:54 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/#comment-172594 Wow, new medium for the cyberhip* bet they'll use it to steal the breathe of newborns. I've never thought of sharing an mp3 on Pownce, Twitter, Tumblr or carrier pigeon. Maybe we're sharing a short video on make cheese grits or grandma's 90th birthday. *Jason Pontin article from 7/29/07 discussing Pownce. Wow, new medium for the cyberhip* bet they’ll use it to steal the breathe of newborns. I’ve never thought of sharing an mp3 on Pownce, Twitter, Tumblr or carrier pigeon.

Maybe we’re sharing a short video on make cheese grits or grandma’s 90th birthday.

*Jason Pontin article from 7/29/07 discussing Pownce.

]]> By: links for 2007-08-02 : Blogging The News http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/comment-page-1/#comment-171856 links for 2007-08-02 : Blogging The News Thu, 02 Aug 2007 02:24:40 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/#comment-171856 [...] Pownce: la Killer Ap du “file sharing” ? It’s possibly no coincidence that the name Mr. Rose chose for his new venture suggests the Internet gamer’s jargon “pwn,” which means to take control of a system by exploiting some vulnerability. (tags: socialmedia Media socialsoftware Pownce) [...] [...] Pownce: la Killer Ap du “file sharing” ? It’s possibly no coincidence that the name Mr. Rose chose for his new venture suggests the Internet gamer’s jargon “pwn,” which means to take control of a system by exploiting some vulnerability. (tags: socialmedia Media socialsoftware Pownce) [...]

]]> By: Robert Young http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/comment-page-1/#comment-171604 Robert Young Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:52:29 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/#comment-171604 Sandy, The differences between Grouper & Imeem vs. Pownce are indeed subtle to the naked eye, yet sufficient enough to significantly alter their traction trajectories (much like Friendster vs. MySpace & Facebook). The key lies in looking at the different levels of friction each platform presents for any given uploaded file, in terms of rapid, viral distribution to the point of critical mass. For Grouper & Imeem, the friction for file-sharing is low only for your immediate defined group... beyond that closed group, friction gets high. But for Pownce, which is designed as a true social network in terms of group dynamics, friction for file-sharing stays low beyond your immediate group into potentially many degrees of separation beyond. There are many critical strategic implications that can be derived from such a difference, particularly from the perspective of media companies. Sandy,
The differences between Grouper & Imeem vs. Pownce are indeed subtle to the naked eye, yet sufficient enough to significantly alter their traction trajectories (much like Friendster vs. MySpace & Facebook). The key lies in looking at the different levels of friction each platform presents for any given uploaded file, in terms of rapid, viral distribution to the point of critical mass. For Grouper & Imeem, the friction for file-sharing is low only for your immediate defined group… beyond that closed group, friction gets high. But for Pownce, which is designed as a true social network in terms of group dynamics, friction for file-sharing stays low beyond your immediate group into potentially many degrees of separation beyond. There are many critical strategic implications that can be derived from such a difference, particularly from the perspective of media companies.

]]> By: Sandy Kory http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/comment-page-1/#comment-171327 Sandy Kory Wed, 01 Aug 2007 03:49:31 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/#comment-171327 Both Grouper and imeem started out as social networking/p2p file-sharing plays. Both got little traction with their original models and pivoted to different content distribution models. Why will Pownce succeed where Grouper and imeem didn't? Both Grouper and imeem started out as social networking/p2p file-sharing plays. Both got little traction with their original models and pivoted to different content distribution models. Why will Pownce succeed where Grouper and imeem didn’t?

]]> By: Robert Young http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/comment-page-1/#comment-171303 Robert Young Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:41:23 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/#comment-171303 Actually Tony, there's a big difference. And it all comes down to the fundamental difference between the platforms you mentioned (IM and online file-storage sites like Box.net) and social networks like Facebook... and now Pownce. Actually Tony, there’s a big difference. And it all comes down to the fundamental difference between the platforms you mentioned (IM and online file-storage sites like Box.net) and social networks like Facebook… and now Pownce.

]]> By: Tony Hung http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/comment-page-1/#comment-171263 Tony Hung Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:44:55 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/#comment-171263 So, how is this any different than people sharing files privately either through instant messaging, or through shared accounts such as Box.net? The answer is "nothing". And if that's the case, then I don't see how its a convincing argument for Pownce == next big RIAA headache, because there have been, and continue to be many examples of technologies that allow private file sharing between friends and family. So, how is this any different than people sharing files privately either through instant messaging, or through shared accounts such as Box.net?

The answer is “nothing”.

And if that’s the case, then I don’t see how its a convincing argument for Pownce == next big RIAA headache, because there have been, and continue to be many examples of technologies that allow private file sharing between friends and family.

]]> By: Robert Young http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/comment-page-1/#comment-171188 Robert Young Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:56:58 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/#comment-171188 COD, you're raising very valid points, but, the big difference between the way you are looking at this vs. my perspective is the following. For you, p2p file-sharing only works as an anonymous, illicit (e.g. free downloads) network. For me, p2p (and new innovative biz models based on it... e.g. superdistribution) represents the *optimal* path for legal, super-efficient digital media distribution & monetization. And, social networks will play a pivotal role in that transformation. Pownce, consequently, is the first real promising shot at that IMHO. As for the RIAA... I wouldn't count them out just yet. With EMI leading the effort to build the future of their business without DRM is a move that shouldn't discounted. Again, social networks & p2p will play key roles in enabling legitimate & profitable business models. COD,
you’re raising very valid points, but, the big difference between the way you are looking at this vs. my perspective is the following. For you, p2p file-sharing only works as an anonymous, illicit (e.g. free downloads) network. For me, p2p (and new innovative biz models based on it… e.g. superdistribution) represents the *optimal* path for legal, super-efficient digital media distribution & monetization. And, social networks will play a pivotal role in that transformation. Pownce, consequently, is the first real promising shot at that IMHO.

As for the RIAA… I wouldn’t count them out just yet. With EMI leading the effort to build the future of their business without DRM is a move that shouldn’t discounted. Again, social networks & p2p will play key roles in enabling legitimate & profitable business models.

]]> By: COD http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/comment-page-1/#comment-171130 COD Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:45:15 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/#comment-171130 OK, but as a logged in and known user, doesn't that immediately damped the file sharing utility? Of course, there are plenty of legal reasons to share a file, but if Pownce is going to take off as a file sharing platform, it'll be because of non-RIAA approved sharing. Now if the RIAA somehow woke up and got a clue...but that simply isn't going happen anytime soon. Also, there are already plenty of ways to share files with those you know and trust. The magic of file sharing ands recommendation services is tapping into the expertise and knowledge of those you don't know. I might be wrong, (it certainly won't be the first time) but I'm not seeing it yet for Pownce. OK, but as a logged in and known user, doesn’t that immediately damped the file sharing utility? Of course, there are plenty of legal reasons to share a file, but if Pownce is going to take off as a file sharing platform, it’ll be because of non-RIAA approved sharing. Now if the RIAA somehow woke up and got a clue…but that simply isn’t going happen anytime soon.

Also, there are already plenty of ways to share files with those you know and trust. The magic of file sharing ands recommendation services is tapping into the expertise and knowledge of those you don’t know.

I might be wrong, (it certainly won’t be the first time) but I’m not seeing it yet for Pownce.

]]> By: Robert Young http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/comment-page-1/#comment-171117 Robert Young Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:03:18 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/#comment-171117 @COD, What's potentially revolutionary is file-sharing in the context of people you know and trust, via social networking groups that overlap with each other. Contrast this with previous p2p platforms, which were anonymous. It may seem like an oxymoron, but think of like "lighting up" a darknet. @COD,
What’s potentially revolutionary is file-sharing in the context of people you know and trust, via social networking groups that overlap with each other. Contrast this with previous p2p platforms, which were anonymous. It may seem like an oxymoron, but think of like “lighting up” a darknet.

]]> By: COD http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/comment-page-1/#comment-171102 COD Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:53:35 +0000 http://publishing2.com/2007/07/31/does-kevin-rose-have-the-next-big-thing-in-social-networking/#comment-171102 So it's a combination of IM and email to enable sharing stuff with a defined group of people in near real time. It's almost a listserv for real time messaging. Sort of neat - but I'm having a hard time seeing it as revolutionary. So it’s a combination of IM and email to enable sharing stuff with a defined group of people in near real time. It’s almost a listserv for real time messaging. Sort of neat – but I’m having a hard time seeing it as revolutionary.

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